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Updated: 4 Sep 2004

Current Research Issue 01
Identity of Marianna, the wife of Lorentio Mathia:

    This couple lived in Zalno (Sehlen). We have not yet found a marriage record for this couple, but will give attention to this on the next trip to the library. The couple's oldest child was born on 18 Mar 1785. Based on this birth, we would estimate that her birth would be 23 years earlier, in 1762. Could Marianna be the same person as:

    • Marianna Matya born to Stephani Mathia and Marianna Karnowska in Zalno in March of 1764 and baptized 4 Mar 1764 in Reetz, or
    • Marianna Matya born to Francisci Mathia and Catharina in Zalno on 13 Sep 1760 and baptized in Reetz.

    We need to look for the marriage record of Marianna and Lorentio, and also for the possibility that one or the other died before reaching adulthood.


From:   Bob Mathia
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 16:21:54 EDT
Subject: Godparent analysis.....
To:     Kurt Matthia

Hi Kurt,

I did a little "sleuthing" about the children of LORENZ & MARIANNA MATHIA (Active Research Item #1).  Nothing too significant, but perhaps something will "jump out" at us.

Bob

Bob's Analysis of godparents for the children of LORENZ & MARIANNA MATHIA (married about 1784):

 1.  ANNA JOSEPHINA (DOB 1785):  Simon Woyuechowski (probably Wojciechowski) and Veronika Elzanowska.

    Neither of these individuals are familiar.

 2.  ELISABETH (DOB 1789):  Josephujs Domeraski (probably Domeracki) and Francisca Domeraska (probably Domeracki).  

    We have a FRANCISCA DOMERACKA (born abt 1770, died 01/1840) married to JOHANN JOSEPH MATHIA (born 02/1764, died 12/1836).  DOM is 11/1872, with Francisca living in Zalno.  All of their subsequent children were born in Zalno.  This JOHANN JOSEPH is the brother of LORENZ MATHIA.

 3.  UNNAMED MATHIA (DOB 1792):  Petrus Jaworski & Marianna Kuligowski.  

    Marianna Kuligowski may be the MARIANNA DOMERACKA, married to Josepho Kuligowski (est DOB 1783).

 4.  ADALBERT (DOB 1794):  Nicolaus Matya and Francisca Matyowa.

    We have a NICOLAUS (DOB 1770) born to FRANZ & CATHARINA MATHIA.  He would have been age 24 at the time of Adalbert's baptism. This might be strong evidence of him being the brother of Lorenz's wife MARIANNA, assuming her parents also were Franz & Catharina Mathia.

    The godmother FRANCISCA MATYOWA might be the spouse (Francisca Domeracka) of Lorenz's brother JOHANN JOSEPH MATHIA.  (They were married in 1792).

 5.  JOSEPH (DOB 1797):  Josephus Kuligoski and Agnes Lyczykowa.

    The godmother AGNES LYCZYKOWA might be the spouse (nee AGNES MATHIA) (est DOB 1758) of Adalbertum Lyczywek.  We have no parents for this AGNES, but Lorenz did have a sister born 1761, died 1771, so Lorenz's sister is NOT the spouse of Adalbertum Lyczywek.  Perhaps AGNES is related to Lorenz's spouse Marianna (neither Franz nor Stephani Mathia have known-daughters named Agnes, but the est DOB 1758 fits in).

 6.  ROSALIA (DOB 1800):  Adalbertus Liczywek & Rosalia Kencka.

     The godfather is the spouse of AGNES (nee MATHIA) in #5 (Joseph).

 7.  JACOB (DOB 1802):  Joannes Mathia & Agnes Mathiowa.

    Joannes probably is Johann Joseph, the brother of Lorenz.  Agnes probably is the wife of Nicolaus Mathia (who possibly is a sibling to Lorenz's wife Marianna. See #4 (Adalbert)).

8.  BARTHOLOMEW (DOB abt 1805):  NO baptismal record found yet.